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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 27, 2010 4:15:41 GMT -5
I am actually seriously interested in doing this. The fightin' 69th fought hard on Saipan. They participated in the landings and they got down and dirty with Japs. if anyone wants to go Army for this one who doesn't want to go, or doesn't have a Marine Corps impression, let's discuss this. Haven't done Army PTO in awhile, and it's a lot of fun, as well as being easier for some people. Any takers???
History:
The 69th Inf. Reg. (NY), was still designated the 165th Inf. Reg. (NY), they were attached to the 27th Inf. Div. (NY Nat. Guard). So the 165th is the 69th.
-Burgess
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Post by barcelonablom on Dec 27, 2010 5:16:15 GMT -5
You do realize who their spiritual forebears are right?
The Fightin' 69th Infantry Regiment... The "Irish Brigade."
Of course they were given a black mark that day in Fredericksburg as Gen. Burnside squandered the 69th and other Regiments in futile piecemeal attacks at the heights on the other side of Fredericksburg.
Sadly it'd repeat itself for the 27th Division when Holland Smith relieved the Division Commander of the 27th for "unsatisfactory performance" even though his Division had to fight the Japanese over some of the worst terrain on the island. Of course controversy rained heavy over that.
But here's something motivational.
An address to a meeting of Great War Veterans, Jan. 1940:
No greater fighting regiment has ever existed than the One Hundred and Sixty-fifth Infantry of the Rainbow Division, formed from the old Sixty-ninth Regiment of New York. I cannot tell you how real and how sincere a pleasure I feel tonight in once more addressing the members of that famous unit. You need no eulogy from me or from any other man. You have written your own history and written it in red on your enemies' breast, but when I think of your patience under adversity , your courage under fire, and your modesty in victory, I am filled with an emotion of admiration I cannot express. You have carved your own statue upon the hearts of your people, you have built your own monument in the memory of your compatriots.
One of the most outstanding characteristics of the regiment was its deep sense of religious responsibility, inculcated by one of my most beloved friends — Father Duffy. He gave you a code that embraces the highest moral laws, that will stand the test of any ethics or philosophies ever promulgated for the uplift of man. Its requirements are for the things that are right and its restraints are from the things that are wrong.
The soldier, above all men, is required to perform the highest act of religious teaching — sacrifice. However horrible the results of war may be, the soldier who is called upon to offer and perchance to give his life for his country is the noblest development of mankind. No physical courage and no brute instincts can take the place of the divine annunciation and spiritual uplift which will alone sustain him. Father Duffy, on those bloody fields of France we all remember so well, taught the men of your regiment how to die that a nation might live — how to die unquestioning and uncomplaining, with faith in their hearts and the hope on their lips that we might go on to victory.
Somewhere in your banquet hall tonight his noble spirit looks down to bless and guide you young soldiers on the narrow path marked with West Point's famous motto — duty, honor, country.
We 'll hope that war will come to us no more. But if its red stream again engulf us, I want you to know that if my flag flies again, I shall hope to have you once more with me, once more to form the brilliant hues of what is lovingly, reverently called by men at arms, the Rainbow.
May God be with you until we meet again.
~Gen. Douglas MacArthur.
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 27, 2010 5:26:51 GMT -5
Oh course I know that! I wouldn't be as excited otherwise! If only Jeff Copeland was on here a bit more, I'm sure he would be interested in going 27th ID. Would be interesting, and accurate!
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 27, 2010 5:29:10 GMT -5
Enjoyed the MacArthur address. Very cool.
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Post by taishocat on Dec 27, 2010 6:20:48 GMT -5
You know, I really want to try out US army one time for PTO to be a Japanese translator but hardly anyone in the 2nd Sendai other than me can speak Japanese fluently.....
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 27, 2010 6:25:39 GMT -5
Dude Taisho, that would actually be pretty sweet. Hah, maybe we can try and see if the 2nd Sendai would be interested in working that into the scenario some how??? Who knows. Still, something to chew on.
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Post by mayo on Dec 27, 2010 7:53:41 GMT -5
We have a limited number of Japanese. I hope the guys who do that continue to so that there is someone to fight. Also, our offical 2nd impression is 1st Marines. I do Army for everything else. I do Marines for PTO. Even though my father was a Korean War and Vietnam War vet, I do it to honor him.
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 27, 2010 8:06:21 GMT -5
It's just another idea for a possible impression at the PTO battle. Some guys can't do the USMC thing and it might be cool to have the Army represented as well.
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Post by mayo on Dec 27, 2010 10:17:58 GMT -5
P41's are on sale at At the Front for $40 top, $40 trousers. Almost all of our guys who are regular attenders have a USMC impression or a Japanese impression.  |
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Post by bthodgson on Dec 27, 2010 13:40:35 GMT -5
Wyatt doesn't have a USMC impression yet. And if he weren't able to get one before the battle, it would be cool for him to go as Army. I'd like him to be able to go to a PTO battle sometime. As far as the voting goes, I'll leave that to Wyatt since I will be going Corpsman to the battle.
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Post by taishocat on Dec 27, 2010 16:50:04 GMT -5
I'm totally all for an Army unit for the PTO. It'd be nice to have some guys dressed up as proper army for the PTO and not guys with beards, M1 carbines with 30 rd mags, farby helmets and all that crap. And I thought doing US army in the PTO was easy to do...
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Post by wrhodgson on Dec 28, 2010 13:59:53 GMT -5
I would be interested in going army I mean the army did fight in the pacific.And since i dont have a marine impression yet i would be down for goin as army.
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Post by davep on Dec 28, 2010 15:42:23 GMT -5
The entire unit has their Marine Impression except Taisho, Tim and Victor who go as IJA. We are all apart of the 1st Marine 2nd impression unit. We also hook up with elements of the 101st who are also apart of the 1st Marines 2nd Impression. We've been working on this impression for several years now.
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Post by jdfinney on Dec 28, 2010 16:10:26 GMT -5
I don't have a Marine impression yet but I'm slowly working on it, but I do have a complete IJA impression and both the M1942 & M1943 101st Airborne Impressions.
Jeff
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 28, 2010 16:19:17 GMT -5
I'm just shooting the idea out there, my Great Grandfather was an engineer in the pacific, he was briefly attached to the 165th (69th) ON Saipan. I have some artifacts from that island, it just was an idea I was throwing out there due to the actual unit we could go out as. Not to mention, 7th Marines weren't there. 2nd and 4th were. I suppose that is just as easy to change as going out as 27th ID. Just an idea.
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Post by taishocat on Dec 28, 2010 16:53:09 GMT -5
I'm just shooting the idea out there, my Great Grandfather was an engineer in the pacific, he was briefly attached to the 165th (69th) ON Saipan. I have some artifacts from that island, it just was an idea I was throwing out there due to the actual unit we could go out as. Not to mention, 1st Marines weren't there. 2nd and 4th were. I suppose that is just as easy to change as going out as 27th ID. Just an idea. But didn't you know? Only muhreens fought against the Japanese in the Pacific. |
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Post by bthodgson on Dec 28, 2010 17:09:46 GMT -5
Wyatt hasn't been working on this impression for years, and it would be a lot easier for him to go to a PTO battle as Army since he would not have to buy an entirely new impression for him just to be able to attend a battle. I was just saying that if an Army unit was fielded at the PTO battle, that means my brother would be able to go to a PTO battle since he has never been.
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Post by mayo on Dec 28, 2010 18:37:10 GMT -5
We have nearly 38 members in the 1st Marines. If you belong to that unit, you should go out as a Marine. If you are already a member, but don't want to belong to that unit, let me know via PM and I'll delete you from the roster.
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Post by bthodgson on Dec 28, 2010 18:39:26 GMT -5
I wasn't suggesting going as Army? I am going Corpsman no matter what. That's my unit. However, Wyatt is not part of the Marine unit as of yet. I was just saying he might want to go Army if people went as Army.
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Post by mayo on Dec 28, 2010 18:43:09 GMT -5
Roger that Brett. I wasn't directing my statement at anyone in particular. I was just saying dance with the girl what brung you.
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Post by davep on Dec 28, 2010 18:43:48 GMT -5
Anyone wanting to do an Army impression can either hook up with one of the other Army CHG units or form a small group of guys from our unit.
It's just that the lion share of our members are well trenched in the 1st Marine 2nd impression. And I doubt most would consider dropping this impression any time soon. But that is the purpose of the poll, i.e. to peg the interest level, to see who else wants to go out Army.
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Post by kanowarrior on Dec 29, 2010 1:00:23 GMT -5
I actually do have a marine impression. For some reason I always get sucked into doing Japanese? ;D
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Post by SSgt. Burgess on Dec 29, 2010 1:46:26 GMT -5
Yeah, just trying to gauge the interest on doing an Army impression. I'm 7th Marine as well!!!
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Post by kanowarrior on Dec 30, 2010 4:06:55 GMT -5
I was just reading after action reports on an Army unit that was at Okinawa. It was a Heavy Weapons unit and two things struck me. One was they used the exact same method as in Europe in that all the squads machine guns were carried in Jeep trailers until needed, but what really stuck in my mind was the Captain that filled out the report stated all the passwords they used were filled with as many "L"'s as they get in them because it was common knowledge Japanese couldn't pronounce it. And I always thought it was "R"'s!  |
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Post by m14msgt on Dec 30, 2010 12:38:58 GMT -5
I was just reading after action reports on an Army unit that was at Okinawa. It was a Heavy Weapons unit and two things struck me. One was they used the exact same method as in Europe in that all the squads machine guns were carried in Jeep trailers until needed, but what really stuck in my mind was the Captain that filled out the report stated all the passwords they used were filled with as many "L"'s as they get in them because it was common knowledge Japanese couldn't pronounce it. And I always thought it was "R"'s! very interesting tim |
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